![]() ![]() Take a look at the score for the Johannespassion and read (if you have it) the liner notes of the Rilling recording of it (especially the one for the Edition Bachakademie). however, from what I have read and heard (both in CD liner notes and in books and Music History and theory classes), Crotchets and Quavers are the same thing, so the gradiation that you have used would needs be modified again by one note value. I think in general terms we are in agreement. I agree absolutely, but unfortunately, it would appear that 18 th century practice allows this "non-tying" (shortening of notated note values) to occur.ĭavid Glenn Lebut Jr. "That still does not excuse (for me) the non-tying thatgoes on in performances of the Johannespassion." Anyone care to explain this mystery, in terms of a widespread convention in which all the continuo (disregard keyboard for this discussion) instruments play notes that are markedly shorter than notated? This is why the secco recitatives in BWV 18 and BWV 185 are so intriguing (in which the continuo bassoon is written on a separate stave in crotchets ('short' notes), separated by rests, but the identical 'continuo' part itself is written, as is usual, in minims and semibreves ('long' notes) on another stave. Those of us involved in this discussion are referring to the (nowadays widespread) practice of playing continuo notes "short", when or even if these notes are in fact written 'long'. (By the way, that makes breves - what, exactly? Is this where the difference in assignment of note values arises between us?)ĭavid continues: "I just was under the impression that people weretalking about "short" Continuo notes because they were written short." The 'long' notes in this discussion, namely, minims (half notes = two crochets) and semibreves (whole-notes = four crotchets) are those mainly used by Bach to notate the continuo part of his secco recitatives. These are all referred to as 'short' notes in this discussion. (I myself erroneously equated semiquavers to 32 nd notes some time ago). So that we can be in complete agreement on this issue (which I believe we are), let me state the system I am using ,namely: a crotchet = quarter note quaver = eighth note semi-quaver = sixteenth note. That is why people refer to them as quavers (as opposed to semiquavers )." wrote: "A quarter note in the context of the Rezitativ mopvements is actually a longer note. Neil Halliday wrote (September 26, 2003):ĭavid Glenn Lebut Jr. Lets make it easy on ourselves and say that if we can remember a quaver then a semiquaver is not quite a quaver, so it is the next one down on the musical note tree.| Scores & Composition, Parodies, Reconstructions, TranscriptionsĬontinue of discussion from: Recitatives – Part 8 Imagine the bird landing and grabbing an 8-ball (eighth note) from a pool table but the bird is so big it causes an earth quake (quaver). Think of a quaver as a big bird with a long beak. Think of a crochet (USA quarter note) as a golf club.īut a quarter of the golf club players (one of the players) has been using a croquet (crotchety) mallet instead of a club. Think of a minim (USA half note) as the letter 'd' which stands for dog.īut imagine that the 'd' for dog is half dog and half Minnie Mouse (minim). How to remember what semibreve, minim, crotchet, quaver and semiquaver meanĭragged out of the hole (whole note) is a lady who has just finished her freediving session but she is only semi breathing (semibreve). ![]()
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